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Honest question: What¡¯s gross about using @font-face?

It would be lots of test edits. That¡¯s a bummer.

But maybe it¡¯s clearer for the tests to specify the font they want to use. It 
makes the test self-describing, eliminating the requirement that the user take 
a step outside the test to get the right result.

Thanks,
Geoff

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Dean Jackson <d...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> It turns out that many (most?) of the CSS failures are because we no longer 
> expose user-installed fonts, e.g. Ahem.
> 
> Options:
> 
> - update lots of tests to load Ahem via @font-face (yuck)
> - allow Ahem to be used if installed (weird to special case one font, but 
> probably ok)
> 
> Dean
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2018, at 03:26, Philip J?genstedt <foo...@chromium.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Alright, I've written a one-off script [1] to find the Safari-only
>> failures, and here's the output:
>> https://gist.github.com/foolip/4d410ce79416bcdce71feb212159a02e
>> 
>> Barring bugs, each of linked tests or one of its subtests should be
>> failing in Safari Technology Preview and passing in stable versions of
>> Chrome, Edge and Firefox.
>> 
>> Numerically, most of the failures are in css (622), encoding (135) and
>> html (60). With css, it's mostly css/CSS2.
>> 
>> I hope looking through this may be of use to you!
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/foolip/ad-hoc-wpt-results-analysis
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:50 PM Philip J?genstedt <foo...@chromium.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That filtering capability unfortunately does not yet exist on wpt.fyi
>>> but it's a high priority and actively being worked on:
>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt.fyi/issues/201
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I suspect that these purposes, comparing to the stable versions
>>> of all *other* browsers might be the most useful:
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/?product=chrome%5Bstable%5D&product=edge%5Bstable%5D&product=firefox%5Bstable%5D&product=safari%5Bexperimental%5D&aligned
>>> 
>>> Again, no way to filter on wpt.fyi, but I'll see if I can download the
>>> full results and write a quick script.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:49 PM Ryosuke Niwa <rn...@webkit.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the intriguing data, Philip.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a way to get a list of tests where all other browsers pass but 
>>>> Safari / WebKit fail?
>>>> 
>>>> That would allow us to quickly identify the set of tests we can fix to 
>>>> improve the interoperability across browsers right away.
>>>> 
>>>> - R. Niwa
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:45 AM Philip J?genstedt <foo...@chromium.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi WebKittens,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fresh off the bots, I'm excited to report more robust Safari results,
>>>>> and that Safari WPT pass rates are clearly improving! Thanks to the
>>>>> hard work of Mike Pennisi [1] we now have the first Safari 12 results:
>>>>> free online bettinghttps://wpt.fyi/results/?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-12.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> This uses the same setup as for Safari Technology Preview, which has
>>>>> been running for a while [2] and are the results you see on the
>>>>> "experimental" view:
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/?label=experimental
>>>>> 
>>>>> This appears much more robust than the Safari 11 data we've collected
>>>>> from Sauce Labs, and we can see a massive improvement between Safari
>>>>> 11 and 12:
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-11.1&product=safari-12.0&diff
>>>>> 
>>>>> This lumps together infrastructure improvements as well as Safari
>>>>> 11->12 improvements, but improvements in service-workers/ [3] stands
>>>>> out, as well as in webdriver/, referrer-policy/, css/css-align/, and
>>>>> others. (The effect of moving away from Sauce is mainly less
>>>>> timeouts.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also very interesting is to compare Safari 12 stable to TP:
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-12.0&product=safari-12.1&diff
>>>>> 
>>>>> One can tell that work is going in canvas-related things,
>>>>> web-animations/, css/css-logical/ and more! \o/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope you'll all find these results valuable, and please report bugs
>>>>> or feature requests here:
>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt.fyi/issues
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.S. We're also trying to use use these diff views to spot
>>>>> regressions. It's a bit hard to use, [4] but a fix in in progress [5]
>>>>> and I might check back here when that works. I'll append to the end of
>>>>> this email a non-exhaustive list of possible regressions already
>>>>> possible to spot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] free online bettinghttps://github.com/web-platform-tests/results-collection/issues/604
>>>>> [2] https://wpt.fyi/test-runs?labels=safari,experimental
>>>>> [3] 
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/service-workers?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-11.1&product=safari-12.0&diff=true
>>>>> [4] https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt.fyi/issues/411
>>>>> [5] https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt.fyi/pull/609
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.P.S. Possible regressions in Safari TP:
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/vendor-imports/mozilla/mozilla-central-reftests/shapes1?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-12.0&product=safari-12.1
>>>>> free online bettinghttps://wpt.fyi/results/service-workers/service-worker/extendable-event-async-waituntil.https.html?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-12.0&product=safari-12.1
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/service-workers/service-worker/skip-waiting-installed.https.html?sha=ee2e69bfb1&product=safari-12.0&product=safari-12.1
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