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Does the technology exist? Is it available? How does this splitting make maintenance easier? Cheers, Peter Not exactly, but it's doable and it's desirable. There are two relatively recently developed components in MediaWiki that are important for developers: Content Model and Multi-Content Revisions. They are not discussed very much among the less technical editors because they are pretty internal, and I'm really not an expert on what they do myself, but as far as I understand them, they can serve as steps to implementing Jane's suggestion. This suggestion is not even very new. In a way, the extremely old bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2167 , originally filed in 2004 (!) suggests pretty much the same thing: separate interlanguage links and other metadata from the page content. Interlanguage links were mostly separated from pages thanks to Wikidata, but categories still aren't, and a lot of other kinds of metadata appeared since then: DEFAULTSORT, newsectionlink, notoc, and many others. Authority control, navbox, and infobox templates, as well as links to disambiguation pages, can probably be converted to separately-stored metadata as well. Wikidata can probably play a major role in getting this done, but it's not the only factor, and a lot of development is needed to better integrate Wikidata with other projects. But yes¡ªI generally agree with Jane that better modularization of wiki pages' content components can go a long to making them easier to edit, easier to search, easier to query, etc. It's not the only major change that our technical infrastructure needs, but it's among the more important ones. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni ¡¤ ?????? ????????? ?????????? free online bettinghttp://aharoni.wordpress.com ?¡°We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.¡± ¨C T. Moore? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Jane Darnell > Sent: 30 December 2018 15:42 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent? > > Well it is not difficult to imagine when you consider for example line > items in the case of list articles. Many lists could be split into such > line items and kept in a static assembled form by some sort of "assembly > template". Many of these line items are either articles or parts of > articles. Such "line items" may or may not have Wikidata items, may or may > not be suitable for Wikidata items, and may or may not be able to be > structured in any way, shape or form than the one they currently have. I > would like to be able to address these "line items" as "findable editing > snippets" in the wikiverse, possibly curatable by voice activation, > reversing the way we can sometimes get them read to us by Siri/Lexa. > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 1:48 PM Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > Jane, > > I do not understand what parts you would split these things into, or how > > they would make Wikipedia easier to curate and edit. Could you link to an > > explanation or clarify the concept? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>