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by Marco Aurelio.

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Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of
> nondiscrimination policy [2]
>
> [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be
> forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda if
> you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
>
> Best
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one
> > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over
> about a
> > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects.  The
> > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the automatic
> > account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago, and has
> > actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several
> wikipedias,
> > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's
> > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made on
> > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to have
> > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the editor
> > was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for account
> > name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were created on
> > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February 2018.
> >
> > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor was
> > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account, explicitly
> > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the
> sexual
> > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is in
> fact
> > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it is
> a
> > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block
> > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the
> account
> > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, nor
> do
> > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username like
> > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked.  We do know that there are only 4
> > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50
> > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason for
> > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block.
> >
> > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all
> > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames that
> are
> > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've known
> that
> > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies when it
> > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that is
> > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, even in
> > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username would
> be a
> > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of
> cases
> > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on all
> > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on other
> > projects.
> >
> > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the editor
> > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always wary
> of
> > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct
> > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the first
> > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor
> > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined.
> >
> > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for
> someone
> > who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic
> Wikipedia
> > and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with the
> > username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven in
> part
> > by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy
> governmental
> > scrutiny if it appears to "promote" locally unacceptable activities). I
> am
> > personally curious as to why it took over six months to identify that
> this
> > account did not meet the local username policy, and whether there was
> > internal or external discussion about the username.
> >
> > It is not clear to me what the desired outcome is in this case - at least
> > in part because we have no idea of the opinion of the editor involved.  I
> > am hard-pressed to say that a project should be required to allow
> usernames
> > that it has a long history of considering unacceptable, especially if it
> is
> > applied evenly to all accounts; in this case, if it disallows usernames
> > that imply sexual preference regardless of what that preference is.
> >
> > It seems to me that the WMF Trust & Safety group would probably be the
> > right group to examine this.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 09:42, Ariel Glenn WMF <ar...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Additional notes:
> > > The user's regular page can be viewed on en wikipedia:
> > > free online bettinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist
> > > Queer may have to do with gender identity as opposed to being an
> > indicator
> > > of 'sexual behavior', so the blockers didn't even get that right.
> > Example:
> > > I am gender-nonconforming as to my gender identity and expression; this
> > is
> > > the primary reason I use the label 'queer'.
> > >
> > > I believe this should be reported... somewhere. But I don't know where.
> > The
> > > WMF CoC only covers technical spaces. A little help here?
> > >
> > > Ariel
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:26 PM F? <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do we have cross project policies to govern or limit local policies
> > > > for the use of sysop tools? I would like to pass on policy advice,
> and
> > > > any past cases folks here would like to highlight that set a
> > > > precedent.
> > > >
> > > > The case below is illustrative, though based on my recall of several
> > > > complaints which went nowhere over the years, on email lists, and
> > > > Jimmy's talk page, about apparently arbitrary blocks on different
> > > > non-English Wikipedias, it seems reasonable to believe those
> > > > complaints are the tip of the iceberg, and there are likely to be
> many
> > > > historical cases of blocks that could have been appealed... had the
> > > > user been confident to complain in English, and have the energy to
> > > > pursue generic WMF policies on terms of use, or
> > > > harassment/discrimination, to establish a meta-level case.
> > > >
> > > > # Example case
> > > >
> > > > An account block on the Amharic Wikipedia (am.wp) was flagged up
> > > > yesterday on the WM LGBT+ Telegram discussion group.[3] The rationale
> > > > for blocking the account was because the account name includes the
> > > > word "Queer"[1]. The incident raises questions about process and
> > > > accountability, particularly as the block gives the impression that
> > > > this is the norm or an agreed interpretation of policy for sysops on
> > > > am.wp, and because the user is well established using this account
> > > > name across Wikimedia projects and has never edited am.wp so the
> block
> > > > cannot be based on any prior action or dispute.
> > > >
> > > > In this example there is no obvious process for appeal, if sysops on
> > > > that project think that blocking any LGBT+ related account name
> > > > represents local consensus. After off-wiki discussion, the WMF Trust
> > > > and Safety team has been approached for advice,[2] as the rationale
> > > > for the action appears hostile to any openly LGBT+ volunteers who
> > > > might want to include something queer looking in their account name
> > > > (such as my account name, should anyone want to read it as
> transgender
> > > > related).
> > > >
> > > > # Links
> > > >
> > > > 1.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> free online bettinghttps://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Contributions/QueerEcofeminist
> > > > ;
> > > > the block log states "Names calling attention to your sexual behavior
> > > > have never been allowed here in 15 years and aren't suddenly allowed
> > > > in 2018"
> > > > 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety
> > > > 3. https://telegram.me/wmlgbt
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Fae
> > > > --
> > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+
> > > >
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