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Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:17:14 -0800

Why not just officially support Wikipedia on IPFS, which has been
hosting the Turkish Wikipedia in Turkey, unlike the Foundation, for
almost two years now?

https://blog.ipfs.io/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/

https://github.com/ipfs/distributed-wikipedia-mirror


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:10 PM Philippe Beaudette <phili...@beaudette.me> wrote:
>
> Nathan, when you write "the very nature of Wikipedia is
> maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
> unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of Wikipedia",
> it's very easy for me to fully and totally agree -- as I would have, three
> years ago.  But in those three years, I've seen things in the US that I had
> never thought I would see.  I've seen the rights that I considered
> inviolable... violated.  I've seen the resurgence of a brand of
> conservatism that I find alarming.
>
> I find myself, reluctantly, agreeing with Fae that there should be a backup
> plan.  However.... I choose to believe this is also an opportunity.  What
> about a fully distributed version that's hosted everywhere, and nowhere?
> What other options, besides the traditional, can the WMF's bright staff and
> creative volunteers come up with? Surely there's something ....
>
> Failing that, there's always Iceland. :-)
>
> Philippe
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:05 PM Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Fae,
> >
> > I'm curious what nation you have in mind for your stable Plan B. Is it
> > Brexit Britain? France of the Yellow Vests and Front National? Perhaps
> > Orban's Hungary, Putin's Russia, or Germany with its recent right-wing
> > resurgence?
> >
> > Maybe you'd prefer Jair Bolsonaro's Brazil? I suppose in Italy we'd worry
> > about Beppe and criminal libel statutes, while BJP would hardly seem
> > welcoming in India and I can't imagine you'd suggest a home on the other
> > side of the Great Firewall.
> >
> > Maybe you're hinting at Canada, but otherwise, I'd love to understand what
> > island of liberal stability and legal safeguards you think is safe from the
> > vagaries of electoral politics or rigid authoritarianism.
> >
> > The countries I list above have their own flaws (although in each case, I
> > believe, many desirable traits as well) as does any other alternative.
> > Anyone could reasonably argue it's unfair to stigmatize any of them by
> > glaringly public flaws.
> >
> > To my mind Steve Walling has it right - the very nature of Wikipedia is
> > maybe the best protection there could be, even against the absurdly
> > unlikely circumstance of a United States government takeover of Wikipedia.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM F? <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear fellow Wikimedians, please sit back for a moment and ponder the
> > > following,
> > >
> > > For those of us not resident in the US, it has been genuinely alarming
> > > to see highly respected US government archives vanish overnight,
> > > reference websites go down, and US legislation appear to drift to
> > > whatever commercial interests have the loudest current political
> > > voices. Sadly "populism" is happening now, and dominates American
> > > politics, driving changes of all sorts in response to politically
> > > inflated and vague rhetoric about "security" and "fakenews". It is not
> > > inconceivable that a popularist current or future US Government could
> > > decide to introduce emergency controls over websites like Wikipedia,
> > > virtually overnight.[1][2][3][4]
> > >
> > > The question of whether the Wikimedia Foundation should have a hot
> > > switch option, so that if a "disaster" strikes in America, we could
> > > continue running Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from other countries
> > > has been raised on this list several times over many years. The WMF
> > > and its employees are heavily invested in staying in Silicon Valley,
> > > and that will stay true unless external risks become extreme.
> > >
> > > However, there has never been a rationale to avoid investing in a Plan
> > > B. A robust plan, where the WMF can switch operations over to a
> > > hosting country with a sufficiently welcoming with stable national
> > > government and legislation, that our projects could continue to meet
> > > our open knowledge goals virtually uninterrupted and without risk of
> > > political control. A Plan B would ensure that if the US Government
> > > started to discuss controlling Wikipedia, then at least that published
> > > plan would be a realistic response. If they tried doing it, we could
> > > simply power off our servers in the USA, rather than compromise our
> > > content.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of committed investment in a practical WMF Plan B, it
> > > would be reassuring to share it more widely at this time. If not, more
> > > of us should be asking about it, politely, persistently but perhaps
> > > less patiently than indefinitely. :-)
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46739180
> > > 2. http://www.lse.ac.uk/ideas/research/updates/populism
> > > 3.
> > >
> > https://www.cnet.com/news/obama-signs-order-outlining-emergency-internet-control
> > > "... this order was designed to empower certain governmental agencies
> > > with control over telecommunications and the Web during natural
> > > disasters and security emergencies."
> > > 4.
> > >
> > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418
> > > "The president could seize control of U.S. internet traffic, impeding
> > > access to certain websites and ensuring that internet searches return
> > > pro-Trump content as the top results."
> > > 5. Bizarro, as used in the title of this email:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Fae
> > > --
> > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > >
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